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Episode 13 - Adaptation

Episode 13 - Adaptation

September 16, 2021

Fan of the show, Eric is in the “studio” this week with Ben and the “pod-cats”.  They are champing at the bit to talk about the word “adaptation” (even the cats), but first they answer a question about “Easter eggs”.  The conversation goes to some interesting places before getting to video games and what is recognized as the worst movie to video game adaptation so far.  Ben comes up with Norah’s PERFECT gamertag and Eric talks about his “Middle Earth” obsession. 

00:20 - Ben and Eric introduce this week’s word… “adaptation”
00:33 - Clapping for syllables and “What is an Easter egg?”
04:30 - Nerd credit and sports nerds
07:20 - Eric’s thoughts on his meaning of the word adaptation
12:10 - Eric and his father’s fascination with mountain climbers
17:15 - Ben’s first remote control story and a weird question about biological adaptation
22:40 - Ben opens up about his social anxiety in very large groups and his strategy 
24:00 - The movie Adaptation is old enough to drink so… spoilers or whatever
29:44 - The definition of the word pastiche and Ben knows two types of orchids
33:00 - Police Squad 
34:40 - Movies that were made in to video games; Eric loved Activision’s Spiderman 2
39:25 - “Proto Incredible Spider Hulk Type” and the Punisher game
42:25 - The Red Dead Redemption “boomerang bug”
45:00 - Spiderman, Batman Arkham Asylum and Insomniac’s games
47:00 - Eric absolutely loves Tolkien’s Middle Earth universe and games
51:00 - The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay  
52:40 - Eric mentions the ET Atari 2600 game and Ben can’t pronounce Alamogordo
58:50 - Norah’s gamertag 
01:01:50 - Lucky Wander Boy by D.B.Weiss
01:03:40 - Ben compares video game adaptations to cover songs 
01:10:20 - Ben blames George R R Martin
01:10:50 - Video game adaptations coming to Netflix
01:12:20 - Eric and Ben’s thoughts on remastered games
01:13:50 - Arcade Games made from movie properties 
01:15:54 - Ben and Eric signing off 

Episode 12 - Map

Episode 12 - Map

September 9, 2021

Evan joins Ben this week to discuss maps.  Ben recites his map related research findings and tells a cool Google Maps story.  Evan confesses that she is bad at directions.  At one point the conversation moves to pizza for some reason.  Evan and Ben both love Namco’s Mappy!  What are “trap streets”?  What makes a great video game map?  Tune in and find out!

00:20 - Introducing your hosts Ben and Evan
00:38 - “Two words that don’t rhyme” and Dora
03:00 - Has Evan ever used a paper map? …Google Maps?
07:28 - Ben’s cool Google Maps story
09:45 - Snapchat improvements in relation to Geography and being social 
12:30 - Cooking with Paris on Netflix (and her age is revealed)
15:22 - Origami with maps, more about paper maps, and giving directions 
20:00 - Taco Bell and cultural appropriation opinions 
21:20 - The start of a VERY long conversation about condiments and then pizza 
28:55 - “Let’s get back to maps” and Evan gives directions 
30:00 - Trap streets
35:40 - Yikes!  “It only takes one murderer…”
37:05 - The sport of Orienteering, the Amazing Race and escape rooms
40:55 - The arcade game Mappy and what the translation means in Japanese 
43:55 - Games where maps are very important; Evan educates Ben in the ways of Minecraft
47:50 - “A good legend” and notable map experiences in games
50:20 - Q*Bert and convincing Evan that she has to play Horizon: Zero Dawn
51:55 - Evan can’t do Star Wars; Ben sees Star Wars in the 70s
55:22 - Evan talks about playing “Alien: Isolation” 
56:45 - What makes an effective map in a game?
1:00:04 - Closing thoughts on maps

Episode 11 - Choice

Episode 11 - Choice

September 2, 2021

Cheyenne talks about the important choices in her life and Ben talks about meat, instant coffee, and Consumer Reports.  Cheyenne loves choice based games almost as much as Ben loves podcasting, but they both love BioWare games.  And don’t forget the closing words of wisdom!

00:20 - Ben and Cheyenne are you hosts/contestants this week
00:55 - “Questions from my aunt” about re-specification
04:10 - The word choice
06:18 - Cheyenne’s dream job 
07:42 - Kicking puppies for science 
09:55 - Beef and instant coffee
13:28 - Norah’s buying patterns and rapid fire choice questions
16:00 - Cheyenne’s upbringing, Biology class, and life choices
22:05 - Fatboy Slim’s “Weapon of Choice” video and Consumer Reports
26:33 - Baby socks and a blowtorch 
27:33 - Cheyenne loves Black Mirror
30:38 - Black Mirror: Bandersnatch spoiler alert (up to 31:15)
34:46 - Cheyenne enjoys science fiction and the Mass Effect franchise 
37:00 - Mass Effect 3 ending discussion - you can’t satisfy everyone 
42:47 - The Life is Strange franchise and similarities to Detroit: Become Human
44;27 - BioWare game nerd fest 2021
50:58 - Ben goes “super retro” - old school arcade game choices
53:31 - Character creation choices and creating the narrative 
58:32 - Too many choices in games
01:00:30 - Mom’s child raising advice and Cheyenne’s management style
01:03:18 - “Karma is a bitch”

Episode 10 - Change

Episode 10 - Change

August 26, 2021

First, Evan and Ben get in to an emotional discussion about navigating the changes in their lives.  Then Ben forces Evan to watch a SNL skit, and they talk about reality TV.  Rounding out the episode is a conversation about what games they are currently playing and how they would change them if they could. 

00:20 - Ben introducing his cohost this week, Evan
00:36 - “We’re not talking about coinage”… yet
03:10 - The delta
04:37 - To Evan, change is adrenaline
06:51 - Evan shares how the death of her mother affected her growth
12:38 - Ben shares how the death of his father ultimately led to inspiration
17:08 - “Time may change me, but I can’t trace time.” ~ David Bowie
18:58 - “You’re entering a new phase of your life.” ~ Ed Cheknis
20:41 - More to come
21:14 - Panic, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts and change
25:27 - Happy Birthday Evan!
28:01 - Flux is life
28:53 - The coin shortage well theory
30:36 - A definition of “change”
31:22 - “First CityWide Change Bank 1” SNL skit and bathroom interlude
33:13 - From Craig Ferguson to “changing your clothes” to reality television 
38:53 - Candid Camera?
41:12 - Arcades and ZOMBIES!
44:43 - Evan gushes over the “Last of Us” franchise (some spoilers)
50:57 - Ben drank Cordyceps tea once and has a RPG pet peeve
53:58 - Evan is playing Assassin’s Creed and has some suggestions 
56:40 - If you could change anything about the game you are currently playing…
01:07:12 - How do you purchase your games?
01:09:17 - Evan’s parting words of wisdom

Episode 9 - Magnetism

Episode 9 - Magnetism

August 19, 2021

Episode 9 - Magnetism

Ben is in Chicago with his podcast in a bag!  Aunt Norah explains magnetism and why our family is weird; Ben teaches Norah about video games.

00:10 - Your hosts the week are Ben and (Aunt) Norah 
01:30 - Magnetic personality
03:47 - Norah reiterates that she taught 6th Grade
04:25 - Bret Easton Ellis, refrigerator magnets and Grandma 
09:40 - Mango needs magnetic childproof cabinet locks
11:25 - “Was it about magnets?”
14:00 - Stay away from electrons at parties
18:09 - Lightning and golf 
20:56 - The Boomers got the first Wooly Willie’s
22:51 - Is weirdness genetic?
25:47 - Twilight Zone pinball and the Magna-save
28:45 - Degaussing at the arcade 
33:33 - “Knock on Wood”
36:45 - Pinball was illegal in Chicago until 1976
39:09 - Ben explains the game Portal to Norah
41:05 - Magrunner: Dark Pulse 
43:26 - Super Magnetic Neo on the Sega Dreamcast
45:05 - H.P. Lovecraft with magnets
47:36 - Norah is interested in playing Hitman
50:01 - Violence in…
52:03 - “May I call you Chris?”
53:13 - “We’ll see you next time when we’re going to be talking about…” 

Episode 8 - Vision

Episode 8 - Vision

August 11, 2021

Ben and Chris talk about the word vision this week.  You’re assignment before listening to the episode is to look up the Foreigner - “Head Games” album cover to provide context to Chris’ reaction. Chris “makes it weird,” freaks out, and then gushes about the FPS Alien versus Predator franchise.  Coincidentally, Ben tells his Weird Al story again and then explains why he enjoys the overall experience in a specific Far Cry 3 mission.  

Episode correction:
- The song “Double Vision” was on the ‘Double Vision’ album, not the ‘4’ album.

00:20 - Your hosts this week are Ben and Chris talking about the word “vision”
00:32 - Chris sings David Bowie then says, “too soon”
00:58 - Chris announces the arrival of Norah’s bag
02:22 - What is the game “Seaman?”
06:28 - “Her name is Dave”
07:58 - Vernacular at the bait shop
10:50 - The astral plane  
13:39 - Regular 2VP listeners are hearing it again, but Chris is hearing it for the first time
16:23 - “What is it like to be a session player as an accordionist?”
20:29 - The ‘Head Games’ album cover and Lisanne Falk
23:39 - Wearing glasses and Chris’ radial keratotomy experience
28:19 - The best pun of the episode
32:16 - The Tick!
39:58 - Ewok knife fight and Data East’s “Captain America and The Avengers”
44:08 - “Detective Vision”
49:30 - “In space, no one can hear you polka”
52:59 - Obscured vision in games is mostly annoying and some crime folks
56:45 - A vision, a scope, and a plan 
59:52 - Ben’s confusion; Outer Worlds and No Man’s Sky 
01:03:10 - FIN

Episode 7 - Evolution

Episode 7 - Evolution

August 4, 2021

2VP - Episode 7 - Evolution

For the word “evolution,” Ben and Andrew take a circuitous route on their way to talking about video games, but as a special treat, there IS Andrew’s nigh famous catchphrase at the end!

0:20 - Ben and Andrew are your hosts!
0:33 - Evolution, Neanderthals, and tapas  
2:18 - Teaching actual science in schools
6:07 - Carl Sagan’s Cosmos
7:44 - Velcro
10:18 - Colossal Cave Adventure
11:48 - Definitely not Ghostbusters
16:10 - Devo and Ben’s American Bandstand memory
18:44 - Do attitudes evolve?
20:22 - Andrew’s Two Vague Show callback - Bruce Willis
24:18 - Trying to remember the current host of the Tonight Show
26:12 - “… and in 30 years I’ll grow a beard”
28:58 - Poorly designed hamster balls
30:05 - Andromeda Strain with… dinosaurs, spaceships, or gorillas 
32:10 - Why talk about video games when you can talk about Goldblum?
36:45 - A brief history of Ben’s video game consoles
40:09 - “You could type at people!”
41:23 - Andrew and Ben reminisce about music for nearly 10 minutes 
51:09 - “Maybe we should get back to evolution…”
53:20 - Ben confuses “Ghost Dog” with “The Ghost and Mr. Chicken”
55:23 - Andrew’s Ralph Furley reprise 
57:23 - The baby, a beer, and catching a baseball
01:01:55 - Is the evolution of video games going toward VR?
01:06:33 - Andrew minored in Simlish and making time for gaming
01:12:30 - Andrew gives Detective Pikachu a waxing gibbous 
01:13:04 - Andrew’s closing catchphrase 

Episode 6 - “Hair”

Episode 6 - “Hair”

July 27, 2021

2VP - Episode 6 - Hair

     This week, Ben and Chris are first answering a question about  the Spy episodes, followed by telling their stories related to hair and making things weird.  Be prepared for tangents and tangles galore on the way to the video games(-ish) discussion. 

0:20 - Your hosts this week, Ben and Chris
0:40 - The subject is hair
1:50 - Questions from my aunt and the archivists
4:33 - Why no “Bond girl” discussion?
7:08 - Bond’s children and Taran Killam’s comic “The Illegitimates”
11:50 - Chris doesn’t listen to the show, followed by stalling 
14:10 - Chris doesn’t like hair, but the beard is okay
16:30 - Chris doesn’t know what a compliment is on Ben’s planet
19:54 - Hairdressers and Oil City, PA
24:48 - The diversion
28:08 - “Bad Hair” and Chris’ confusion
30:18 - Why is hair so badly done in video games?
32:18 - A simple solution… full motion video
36:08 - John Rhys-Davies impressions
38:05 - Guilty Gear and Nintendo baseball
43:14 - “… the very last city”
45:46 - Chris’ PSA
48:00 - Bridges?

Episode 5 - “Ability”

Episode 5 - “Ability”

July 21, 2021

2VP - Episode 5 - Ability

     Ben is joined by guest co-host Andrew this week to talk about the word ability, navigating life as an autistic person, and Andrew’s fleeting obsession with Rise of Empires.  For more information about Andrew’s assorted shenanigans, check out www.partlyrobot.com, @partlyrobot on Instagram, and @PartlyRobot on Twitter.

0:20 - Introducing your hosts Ben and Andrew
0:38 - Ability
7:30 - Andrew’s realizations in the late 80s
9:46 - “Around 1992 in the world of psychology…”
14:18 - Substitute teaching in special education programs
25:41 - Oh, how the English love Andrew
30:43 - “Are you taller?”
33:22 - Gold
37:18 - Autism and overlap with gender identity
41:55 - Alfa, Uniform “… give me back my gold watch!”
42:49 - A non-gendered pilot of a gendered meat robot
47:32 - AOL and chat 
50:18 - Ability vs. aptitude
56:25 - Make babies and sell them rock n’ roll records 
1:00:23 - Game name removed until they send Ben a check
1:04:35 - Nationally profiling 
1:08:44 - Ben’s out of touch parent moment 
1:14:04 - “I recognize those Spanish cuss words…”
1:17:07 - Getting that message out there
1:20:43 - Can / should games be made to be “autism accessible?”
1:22:51 - How to feel old
1:24:40 - Andrew’s wise words of wisdom to end the show

Episode 4 - “Spy” part 2

Episode 4 - “Spy” part 2

July 14, 2021

2VP - Episode 4 - Spy part 2

0:20 - Restarting the conversation - OSS117
9:10 - Two dudes and aunt - recapping the favorite Bond actors 
11:55 - Bond movie theme songs - the Thunderball submission from Johnny Cash
14:05 - Chris’ baccarat and martini experiences in Las Vegas 
17:55 - Back to Bond theme songs
19:55 - “You Only Move Twice” and Ben forgets Albert Brooks’ name
22:00 - IOI’s Project 007 and the Hitman franchise
28:15 - Chris’ wish list… for the Bond game
36:21 - Ben’s list - putting on the gloves of wish list excavation
37:10 - Jetpacks are dumb!
43:52 - Gadgets or question marks?
49:02 - Original theme and opening sequence
51:09 - Bundle up and be your own “Bond”
53:50 - Romance?
57:01 - Is SPECTRE necessary in the game?
1:01:59 - Closing thoughts

Episode corrections: 

  • After Jean Bruce’s death in 1963, his wife (not his daughter) Josette Bruce continued to write 143 OSS 117 novels until retiring in 1985.  Their daughter Martine and her husband continued the series starting in 1987 and wrote an additional 23 books about OSS 117. 
  • The Simpsons Episode “You Only Move Twice” is the second of Season 8.
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